I'd rather play a solid handcrafted 6-8 hour game than play 200 hours of MMO "content".
Never really played any MMOs, seems like it would only be fun if you have a lot of irl friends who are also into it
the 'fun' part of MMO is the social aspect tho
Anything is fun with friends, even grindy MMO shit
ya but the thing about MMOs is the social aspects are built out way more than other types of games
Isn't MMO dead? To me it the gimmick of mid 00s.
doesn't look like it
ESO has about 15-20k online at all times
My one friend who was a big wow nerd for a LOOOONG time took up ESO a year ago and he's on that shit hard. In some ways I'd say it's a zero sum game. A number of people will keep up with wow for new content but let other games, or other MMOs float in.
It's still strong in that sense. I feel like a lot of weeb have been drawn out of the various cheap kimchi and chink mmos and have gone to ffxiv in the last few years but that's just anecdotal on my part.
Ultimately, seems like it's a zero sum game. Not a lot of room for growth right now may just be generational unless there is something out there that can revolutionize the genre as it's kinda niche.
>>1287>Not a lot of room for growth right now may just be generational unless there is something out there that can revolutionize the genre as it's kinda niche.
The younger crowd are more interested in survival sandbox games like Valheim / Ark / Rust etc. that'll probably be the future of MMO games.
I guess with ESO specifically they're also drawing in an audience from people who usually aren't into MMOs, same with FFXIV. Then again they also tried that shit with FO76 and we all know what happened there
Elder Scrolls Online
the way they did the buy gametime with in game gold was pretty smart
basically it lets irl whales pre-pay for gametime tokens, and if someone has excess gold they then exchange the gold for one of these tokens
so the savvy veteran players can drop their excess gold but blizz still gets their dosh
damn i'll say this so
ESO classes/races are definitely lopsided and unbalanced
and the entire gameplay loop is kinda busted
like ffs why even allow allocating attributes if it just boils down to dumping them all into your roles main attribute pool
if you diversify your attributes you just end up being bad at everything
lel, people are retarded. wtf is the appeal of dumping irl money straight into the game??
like i could see maybe if you really appreciated the game and you wanted to support the studio, maybe give it an extra 20 bucks every year or half a year for stupid cosmetic shit or something
but the people shelling out paychecks to get loot they 'really want' from random lootbox?
i'll never understand
I guess it's the same mindset as gambling, except rather than money the rewards are cosmetic shit, jpegs of anime girls or whatever else
wasn't it dead on arrival?
idk, but it still gets updates and DLC constantly so it must be doing pretty well
weird, I remember hearing it was dead in the water and that was years ago.
what i dont understand is why anyone would value that shit enough to get a dopamine rush or whatever other shit causes retardsto be subject to addcition >>1313>>1316>>1318
its fairly small (6 servers total, two per platform, player count in the 6 figures) but theres a new big update dropping in the next month or two
Maybe it's all about the dopamine rush from winning rather than the product itself? idk, but there's a good reason why this shit is being banned in many countries
>>1360>Damn son that's some MKUltra tier shit, how is this even legal?
They're not the first company to do this. >>1358https://www.cracked.com/article_18461_5-creepy-ways-video-games-are-trying-to-get-you-addicted.htmlhttps://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3085/behavioral_game_design.php?page=1
>"Each contingency is an arrangement of time, activity, and reward, and there are an infinite number of ways these elements can be combined to produce the pattern of activity you want from your players."
Other companies like World of Warcraft have been doing it for decades
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You're just mad because you didn't buy Resource X™
lol they even made it a child in the picture, this shit is plain evil
Yeah you're right, but kids are easily influenced and I don't like that it cultivates an idea in their heads that this is a normal and acceptable way to spend money. There are all kinds of horror stories where a kid turns 18, is given some savings from their parents and they spend it all on lootboxes, streamer donations or whatever else. Of course it's still ultimately their fault for being a fucking retard but something about that kind of exploitation just doesn't sit right with me
>>1374>kids get bullied over fortnite skins online
modern males are such pussies
dude sounds like a total chad
you've gotta be a total fuckup of a parent that your kid would get their idea of normal from fucking vidya tho
its like the exact opposite of when i was in school if some kid bragged about his epic halo purchases he'd be mocked relentlessly
It's not necessarily the vidya itself but the people around them playing it. As people pointed out ITT these games actually purposely match non-DLC players with guys who paid for pay2win shit. There's also the peer pressure aspect, from their friends at school as >>1374
said and from guys on the internet since, worryingly, gaming streamers on Youtube are among the biggest role models for children right now. Also kids are very easily influenced by advertising and there's only really so much that parents can do to prevent that unless you want to cut them off from TV, the internet, vidya and basically every other form of media
>>1387>gaming streamers on Youtube are among the biggest role models for children right now.
this is the gayest thing ever
i guess this is what happens when you have millenial parents tho
i think theres a lot of kids who think like that actually
probably not like a significant portion of the population but still enough that we'll probably be seeing some truly bizarre shit in the next decade maybe even a couple shootaroos directed at some of these ecelebs by kids
i kinda hope so now that i mention it that sounds hilarious
sonic fanbase is so cursed. ngl
i think its based and redpilled
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You forgot the Fire Emblems fandom, they're their own worst enemy.
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Nintendies in general are obnoxious as fuck, probably the worst console warriors of the lot
it's not gay to fap to grills with massive fucking horsecocks right?
its coming out of her vag, too.
a very important detail to note
Doesn't the nintendo switch have a SD slot for saving games?
Still can't believe people like this even exist tbh
I liek Tails Gets Trolled budy
pretty sure reddit would immediately ban him if it was genuine
Who knows really? It's reddit so everything is possible
looks pretty good for a fan game
it gave us tamers12345 and for that alone all the creepy shit like >>1523
was worth it
ngl this looks great. Like Sonic mania tier good>>1540
Fans should make Sonic games forever. Because Sega just can't do it anymore
Don't forget: >$60 ports>Paid online >Lootboxes for kids >Turning Zelda into another soulless open world game>Selling two versions of the same game (Pokemon / Fire Emblem)>Removing digital games to drive up prices
Truly Nintendo you were my greatest ally
I don't really blame them for the BLM shit because literally everyone did it, it was all about corporate image since the few companies who didn't post anything were being called ebil raycists and shit.
Those two FE games were actually completely different games, though you had to buy both to experience the whole story so still kinda jewish
It was one game (Fates), they just sold each campaign separately. Don't forget the third campaign as well which was sold as DLC. Greedy as fuck
>>1567<Pokemon>Sells a piece of shit like hotcakes>Silence anyone who exposes their shit game<Bear in mind this was a year before Last of Us 2
Yet Smashtards wonder why Fortnite is the only game children give a shit over their Ultime Binger.>>1570
Valve remained silent, but they got a pass because woketards already are used to their incompetence; even a satire woke account that pointed out, what was the response?>We're not that retarded, guise.
Many failtrolls couldn't compute it.
made progress on my meme grind, 13/30 titles maxed in guild wars 1
update on this: I finished all of them and took a break from the game