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why dont studios make games that are different these days?
everything is just a CoD clone
stuff like CnC Renegade was weird and fun
Renegade X now is even better
Would something different not sell? Whats the deal?


video games are dead


The majority of people like what's familiar to them and don't even bother to try anything new, hence why series like CoD and FIFA can get away with releasing the same fucking game every year. Unless they genuinely care about the industry there isn't much point in taking the risk on a new IP from a business point of view.


some bullshit Renegade multiplayer was really fun
the meta really evolved over the years
i remember servers would add little features and people would come up with grand strategies around them
'tank massing' and stuff to get around build limits on vehicles and utilize tank wreckage feature
then enemy team would try and save any enemy wreckage and repair/horde them to knock the enemies limit down
a lot of stuff that required in depth teamwork and communication, made possible by the teamchat feature in game and 64 person servers


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>only 16 players online for cnc renegade
well i guess after 19 years its inevitable
id guess most of the players migrated to renegade x at least
speaking of which, they're releasing a Firestorm expansion soon, looks really cool


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Game budgets have ballooned so there's less room for experimentation, same story as Hollywood


There's actually kind of a crossover there too, since AAA vidya companies are increasingly hiring celebrities to do mocap and star in the games. It's kind of sad since it means most of the game's budget is being spent on Hollywood actors rather than the actual development.


The industry grew too big by the 7th gen and every product became formulaic as seen in other big industries.


I don't know if it's solely a financial problem, since even indie games are mostly generic as fuck


the whole celebrity appearance in games is the fucking stupidest shit ever
like FFS its a VIDEO GAME– you can MAKE a whole new person for your character, but instead your going to pick some faggot hollywood actor?
its lazy, distracting, and expensive ffs


ya firestorm looks like a blast tbh, i'll have to give it a shot when it drops– they really messing with the CNC formula. it almost seems the feeling is a hybrid between CNC Renegade gameplay and BF2


I guess it's mostly just about marketing. Especially now that a lot of companies are going for the whole movie game thing and trying to appeal to /tv/fags. But imo mocap in general, with or without celebrities, is unimaginative and basically kills artistic nuance. A good example is DMCV. While I loved the game itself, the mocapped characters and more realistic artstyle were boring compared to what we seen in 1-4 imo.


>why dont studios make games that are different these days?

It costs a lot more money to develop games nowadays. See vid related. Only reason so many good games got made in the PS2/XBox/Gamecube era is because it was relatively easy to develop for those respective consoles.


>because it was relatively easy to develop for those respective consoles.
what about PC games? i dont see why those would be any harder to develop than console?
not that id know, but just a guess


PC games back then were generally more complicated because you have to optimize it to run on all different kinds of hardware, while with consoles everyone has the exact same system. Hence why a lot of PC ports of old console games run like complete shit. This isn't really the case anymore nowadays since most games are made in pre-existing engines such as Unreal, Unity etc. which are heavily optimized and make it very easy to compile the game for PC or any console.


It's very hard to make anything innovative when you can't talk to 90% of your dev team. Games now aren't made by a single studio, they're broken up piece by piece to different studios. One company will do the FPS elements, one the driving and one the story. Even if you as the FPS designer have a really cool idea for the driving element you can't pass it on or use it. Adding that additional feature might break another studio's segment and the whole game falls apart.

Unity and Unreal are extremely unpotimized. They have to work for so many different styles of game they can't manage data effectively. A slow paced walking sim doesn't need the same loading speed as a break neck racing game does. 2D and 3D work very differently too and none of those engines are able to refine themselves in any area without sacrificing in another.


>Games now aren't made by a single studio, they're broken up piece by piece to different studios. One company will do the FPS elements, one the driving and one the story.
What games operate like this? All I can think of is CoD and that's only because the studios are too incompetent to work independently


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I have a lot of problems with this post

1) CS degree are hard, the "dead beats" in the industry are writers, producers, community managers etc.
2) The Gothic devs never went anywhere and have a game in the works right now
3) No sources on Chimera Squad datamining, can't find proof anywhere.


>I have a lot of problems with this post
go back to resetera then


Who pissed in your cornflakes lmao, chill the fuck out


>anon posts legitimate criticisms
>"but ur a leftist lol"
back to /pol/ faggot


hbu fags go to any other /v/ with this shit huh? if youre gonna stay here you have to hatefuck each other and makeup


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fuck you nigger I enjoy the anger


i hope you enjoy my hateboner up your ass then homo i stick by my word like a real straight man


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>legitimate criticism
get a load of this newfaggot


Why? I don't think he's wrong. It isn't the programmers who are in charge of games these days, it's producers, directors etc. who usually are just strict businessmen following whatever trend is making money. Also the fact that the post complains about deadbeat college students while praising Romero and Carmack is pretty fucking retarded tbh


dae wanan fuck john romero 2 this day?


carmack isnt a dedbeat but romero sure as hell is


>I don't think he's wrong
you mean (you)?
you literally know jack shit about this stuff, shut the fuck up already


At least explain why I'm wrong if you're so knowledgeable


why even respond to posts like that some angry faggot who acts this way has no interest in actually conversing with anyone and is just here to make angry retard barks in the hope it makes someone else mad


I wonder what it is specifically about /v/ boards that attract this kind of anger anyway? probably just autism tbh


from what i can tell its usually just one or two autists that will lord over the entire board and sperg at badwrong posts without even attempting to elaborate why
i mean i can understand someone getting upset if a post is truly some abhorrent shit that could only either be trolling or genuine faggotry but this was just a regular conversation
calm down budy nobody is trying to piss you off


how about you lurk for 15 years, faggot
>waaah, waaah, converse with me! How dare you telling me to shut the fuck up!
go back and kill yourself
fuck off back to resetera.com already, this isn't your hugbox


Even on 4/v/ the influence is still there, every fucking thread is twitter screencaps, thinly veiled /pol/ threads, shitty e-celeb drama and basically everything other than actually talking about vidya games


im almost convinced posts like this are made by bots ive seen this EXACT format so many damn times i dont even have to read the post itself to know what the retard who made it is saying
wherever you came from please go away i dont know if you decided to start shitting up this /v/ because someone said it was relatively fag free but it has been kinda nice so far and itd be great if it stayed that way tbh but if youre dedicated to being a perpetually buttblasted homo with undefined standards for posting then i guess theres nothing we can do but watch you kill it oh well video games are for children anyway thanks for reading my blog


These kinds of posts are made by attention-seeking faggots desperate for (You)s, just ignore them and they'll go away


Nah. It's ded movement


actually its about ethics in game jouranlism


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*cums all over hotwires mouth, face, and eyes*


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Sydney is best girl


sydney is a stupid WHORE


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You're thinking of this bitch. This bitch is the biggest slut.


why are tehy holdin their arms out like that they got swamp pits or something?


sakura is high tier HAPA leave hur alone


>falling for the asian meme when you can cuck dr mobius from his daughterfu


i dont need his used goods

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